Sabrina of Asservissante

[johntodd]

Had an OK experience with Sabrina of Asservissante. She has a very nice body, 35C 24 35, 110 lbs, brown hair and eyes. She is trimmed but not clean shaved and in her early 20's, said she has worked for Martin for a couple years. She offered CBJ, DATY, multiple positions and 2 SOG. Overall an OK experience, I probably would not repeat. The spreadsheet rates her 5 5 4 , I would rate her 3 4 4. She lost points because she is not very pretty.:eek:

[Robin]

Come on Train, it can't be that easy. Those ratings come from real reviewers. Sabrina's rating came from my own review a year ago and I had a fun time.

[Red Paul]

I got to say, when I saw another Assv. girl -- Jessica -- with a 4 for looks, it made me realize how different people's reactions are.

Not to be rude, but she'd be well under 4 in my book.

[mk1992]

do take a look at the description of the girl on the web site.... the 'description' in italics are my personal comments.

[dr torpedo]

The spreadsheet numbers are way inflated. A general rule of thumb is to subtract about half to one point from each girl in the looks category, although I find that the latter two numbers are accurate. I wish that reviewers would give justifications for the numbers.

Sabrina is no way a 5. She is more like a 3.5. I will justify my number with this description...

To me, she looks like a jew with Italian features. She's tall, thin, and pale white. Her pale white skin makes her pubes look thicker than normal, but she keeps it trimmed. She has thick, but trimmed eyebrows. This girl could be one hairy monster if she didn't take care of herself. One bad thing about her is that her tits are unusually saggy. If they were more perky, she'd be a 4.5 because they are quite big, natural, and supple (and she's willing to freely use them). She is quite thin, although she doesn't work out, so that her body is not athletically rock hard.

She's listed as giving a CBJ, but she gives BBBJ if you can get her to relax. How do you get her to relax? well, that's up to you to find out because she asked me not to tell. Her BBBJ skills are quite good.

Another plus is that if she starts getting comfortable, she's really cool to talk to.

Jessica? I agree that she is more like a 3 or less. She is chubby, has some distrating tatoos, speaks no english, has a funky and distracting front tooth that sticks and turns at a 45 degree angle. Regardless, I would repeat with her again, in a heartbeat. Why? First, She isn't ugly. And secondly, because she is one of the nastiest Asservisante girls that Martin has. She does it all. ALL. Just turn the lights low and imagine that she's 20 pounds less. And for god's sake, don't look at that tooth.

[fensterlein]

I think this has something to do with the 5-point system. Sub-conciously people tend to give out 5s more easily than 10s. Giving out an 8 doesn't feel as bad as giving out a 4. After all, 8 sounds like a decent grade, and 4 sounds like a failing grade. So I recommend when it comes to facial features, we should use a 10-point scale instead.

[Red Paul]

"A Jew with Italian features"? I don't know what to make of that, but it sounds like fun.

Just to show the variability of all this, I'd give Sabrina a 4.5. I quite liked her face, and her breasts (heavy but shapely). In fact I'd rate her overall looks (face and body) equal with Clara, who is pretty but in a doll-like way that's less interesting than Sabrina's.

[montrealfan]

I agree with fensterlein that a 10-point system on look (and service) would give us a better level of expectation.

In my scale (of 5), Sabrina gets a 3.5 to 3.75. When I met her, she was wrapped in a long scarf, wearing a sexy leather boot, and her attitude is amazing (she was quite playful in the bathtub) and her energy level is exceptionally high and her service is also very good. She is a quite a smart gal (ask her about her upbringing, granted that you have to assume she's trueful) and very easy to talk to. I had a really good time with her and would definitely repeat when I visit Montreal again.

On the other hand, I give Emmanuel of Asservissante look a 3.5 as well, and Sabrina has an edge in the overall rating. I feel Emmanual is there for the $, not much GFE to speak off.

MontrealFan

[dr torpedo]

Red Paul, my brother, a 4.5? Sabrina is equal to Clara? Did you have beer goggles on by any chance? Seriously, there is no way in tarnation that Sabrina is equal to Clara in looks. Clara is a bitch, yes, but she's way better eye candy.

[donbusch]

Originally posted by dr torpedo
Clara is a bitch, yes, but she's way better eye candy.


Well, its all YMMV, I've met Clara twice and she can be really sweet if you treat her like a real date and not rush her. Admittedly, some hobbyists might think that's kinda dumb given that they're already paying quite a bit for their session but being nice doesn't cost anything except maybe the frustration of not just being able to throw her on the bed and start making out. Anyhow, I find Clara to be a better bet than girls like Christine whose service level is pretty much consistently crappy inspite of efforts to make her comfortable.

[Red Paul]

Dr. Torpedo, my brother. Just to confound you, let me say that I don't think Clara is a bitch. She's quite a sweet girl and responded nicely once I got her off her usual program (lie back and smooth the guy's body hairs while he does his business). It wasn't the greatest sex ever, but it was a bit more than pleasant. She even kept her eyes open and would sneak looks at me now and then. Incredible but true!

Really, Clara has 4 problems in dealing with customers:

1) From what I saw she likes only slow, gentle sex without much thought of orgasm for either person. (Maybe guys who are more experienced with her have seen a broader range.)

2) She has tunnel vision and is good at shutting out anything that doesn't match her preconceptions; therefore, she thinks she's doing a good job just because she's lying back patiently. My guess is she has no idea how boring customers find her standard approach.

3) Her English is so bad it's nonexistent. This is a handicap if you insist on getting-to-know-you before sex. It also goes back to point 2, tunnel vision. Anyone of any intelligence level can learn after a year or so that in English "cinquante" is "fifty" (as in fifty dollars for another half hour). It takes a special sort of personality not to learn it. Clara has that personality.

4) She does not want a finger up her ass and is ready to tell customers so.

To me that doesn't equal a bitch. Points 1 thru 3 equal someone who's in the wrong business. On point 4, I sympathize with her completely.

As to Sabrina, well, no beer goggles, but it was two years ago and I'd have to refresh my memory. I remember her as being pretty in an unorthodox way; I quite liked her nose, for example. Clara is pretty in a way that's so orthodox it's dull. Every feature is round , like on the face of a kewpie doll. Of course, personality starts to seep into the mix here: Sabrina has lots, while Clara is more of the homecoming queen type. But even aside from that, I found Sabrina pretty.

Bottom line: opinions don't always match. One reason for YMMV is that all of us vary.

[jfm2]

wow,she opend her eyes!!.haw did you done that.shes so not there.it s amazing.i was very polite with her.it s true i have never enouth.but went you aske martin haw many service an she now it s 2.well prepere yourself for that.fuck you if you tacke your time an come twice.you paying for it.i am good lokking,nice an polite.but was it nessesairy to tell me ho no you want to fuck me again!!my pussy is gona burn all nite long.then she put the condom on me an extend it so it will snap on my dick.but that didnt work i was still hard.an i fuck her for 30 mns!.of couse she doesn t want to see me again.i fuck 50 whores since i got that hobby.shes the thirst bitch.opinion vary.that a fact.

[dr torpedo]

Red Paul,

I must agree with JFM. She opened her eyes! In reality, I respect your opinion because every one of us has ur own separate tastes. I don't mean to disagree with your objective interpetations. Some of the things you mentioned, doesn't it confirm that she's a bitch? Granted, you didn't see the bitch because you played along with the rules...

1. "From what I saw she likes only slow, gentle sex without much thought of orgasm for either person." ... Who is paying who? I thought she was servicing us? If I (and most other customers) wanted to do things the lady's way, I'd stick with my gf. If any other provider, who was less good looking, did it only her way, I doubt you would give her that latitude.

2. "She's quite a sweet girl and responded nicely once I got her off her usual program" ... If I wanted to work and play smooth, I'd go bar hopping pr sweet talk one of the ladies at my church. 'lest we forget, this is a service girl. Again, who is paying who?

3. "She has tunnel vision and is good at shutting out anything that doesn't match her preconceptions" ... heh? i.e., she's good at ignoring you.

4. Again, "She even kept her eyes open and would sneak looks at me now and then" ... WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? Did she also tell you that..."then you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forrest wiiitttthhh...a herring!!!"

Should you violate rules 1-3 and do things your way, instead of her way, you will bring out the BITCH. She isn't in the wrong business, like you say. She takes a stranger's dick up her most intimate part for money, and she does it knowingly, intentionally, and willingly. She knows exactly what she is doing. It's just that she does it poorly.

However, to each his own.

oh yeah... "Clara is pretty in a way that's so orthodox it's dull. " ... First time I ever heard someone say that a girl is so pretty that she isn't pretty.

BTW, you mentioned Sabrina's nose. The nose is what made me think that she looked like a jew with Italian features (or vice versa).

[Red Paul]

Dr. Torpedo (as you call yourself):

"However, to each his own." Yes, on that we can agree. As to the rest ...

You say I believe people should try to sweet talk Clara and act like she was their girlfriend. I didn’t say that.

You say I believe she ignores people. I didn’t say that.

You say I believe she doesn’t know she’s a prostitute. I didn’t say that.

You say I said she looked at me a couple of times during FS. I did say that. It’s true. What’s the big deal? I’m ready to agree she doesn’t do that often, but it's not tremendous. As I said, the whole thing was pleasant, or maybe a little more. But not amazing … and with all of these women, all of the time, we’re paying them to be with us. That goes without saying.

So why should you flip out over this? That thing about chopping down a tree with a herring was like you had a spasm at your keyboard.

As for Sabrina, why go throwing around references to Jews and Italians? You didn’t like her nose – find a way of saying so. Don't drag in ethnic groups.

That's it for what I'm trying to say.

[dr torpedo]

The chopping down a tree reference...five bucks to the first guy who can identify where that came from.

I've got a million jewish friends, and all have agreed, PC or not, "gosh, she must be jewish".

[Red Paul]

Well, I would have thought it was from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but whatever you meant to express with it didn't get across. Your brain was not working at its best there.

As to your lucky Jewish friends, do they agree that looking Jewish is the same as being ugly? I don't.

[dr torpedo]

Aw, come on now Cletus, I meant nothing mean. If you are offended, then I apologize and will say nothing more other than, "ni".

[fensterlein]

Montrealfan, are you kidding me? Which working girl isn't in it just for the money?

"Uhm... no, I am just doing this for the sex. Money is second." Yeah, I would like to hear that from a girl. :D

C.S. Martin, what's a GS Scale? And are you, in anyway, related to Martin of Asservissante? :)

[fensterlein]

SP turn GF... WTF... YOU DOG!!!
Come on!! What's the secret. Share with us.

[Red Paul]

Dr. Torpedo (or Lurleen) -- apology accepted.

[dr torpedo]

curious, who/what is lurleen?

[fensterlein]

So you think I am montrealfan?
No, I am not him.

[dakull]

While she is not my favorite lady, her looks and most of all her personality are fine with me. The sex was great,open and very giving.Looks wise there are better.

[Red Paul]

Dr. Torpedo -- On The Simpsons, there's Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel and then there's Lurleen, another slack-jawed yokel.

[sny100]

I met her more than a year ago, as many reviewers mentioned that she had great personality, very easy to talk with.
I checked Asservissate's website recently, her name was no longer there. Had she retired ? or moved to different agency ?

[Man911]

Watch you guys, this girls is not the same. I explains:
I met her when she start in the business: Nice face, always fresh,
dress well, safe service. (light kiss, daty, cbj)

Met her maybe 3 month ago, look like a junky, smoke weed in the
room. Dfk, give me a bbbjct (swallow), and of course daty in the menu.
Aftrer the session, we talk a little bit.

I told her, that I think she is not the same girl that I met long time ago, and ask her, since when she give a Bbbjct and swallow.
She told me, since she broke up with her boyfriend. (don't know if it true)
I don't know what happen to her, but she really not the same.
She's destroy her life.
I told her that I prefer what she was before.
I did'nt book her again because the service is too liberal.
(disease is easy to transmitted)
I don't say that she have.

[sny100]

Man911, Thanks for your update.
I hope that she is doing fine. She always wanted to be a nurse. Maybe she pursued a new career, that why her name is no longer on website.

[rkymtnoysters]

don't kid yourself........Sabrina was doing bbbjtc right from the start.

[Man911]

rkymtnoysters,
Does she swallow?
If you met her from the start, did you see a difference between
her beginning and now?
-look?
-alltitute?

When you said: ''from the start'', it's mean when? (date)

[rkymtnoysters]

can't remember whether she swallowed or not, that was, what, >3 years ago? No, haven't seen her lately, moving on to newer talent.

My post was just a heads up to people who thinks that they are 'safe' when seeing SPs who are 'safe with them. Not a good assumption. Lady can be seeing tons of people and doing other stuff, including people in her real life - her pimp, her gf, group sex with pals. etc. etc. Sex may be unusual and 'sacred' for some, but definitely not with today's girls, Montreal or otherwise.

The most scary moment lately for myself - real life girl friends doing me without first time out the gate......

[Dr. Torpedo]

I must agree with R on this one. She has indeed always done BBBJTC and swallow. Smokes a lot a weed and shermans, among other things. I've done E and Codeine with her. No doubt the girl's a fiend. Great service and awesome friendly laid back attititude, however. CS, no disrespect to you, my man, yours was the first complaint I have seen of service being too liberal; but I can see your concern. If she only tanned up a bit, got some surgury to lift her sagging titties, and shaved her eyebrows a bit, she'd be a HDH.

[Dr. Torpedo]

Yes, you are right.

I am an idiot.

Where are my glasses?

[Man911]

It's seem that she do Bbbjtc and swallow to all and since the beginning.
But at www.sexwork.com/montreal/spreadsheet.html it's mentionne that she do cbj???

[benhur]

Dr Torpedo......what do jewish girls look like to you?.....Italians I have a pretty good idea.....but never heard a generalization about jewish girls.
Could you enlighten me?

Benhur

[Dr. Torpedo]

Dark hair and eyebrows, pale skin, pronounced facial features. Or blonde hair, but dark eyes. Sabrina was the former. Can also be easily spotted by the huge bag of gold that they lug around.

I went to school with a ton of Jews, so I say that with the greatest of warmth.

[benhur]

Dr Torpedo, nice description for......ashkenazi jews (their parents came from Eastern Europe). You also have in Montreal around 30,000 sephardic jews.....and in their case they look just like the Italians and Greeks, because they come from North Africa and the middle-east and have the mediterranean look....they also have very different temperaments.

[Dr. Torpedo]

come on dude, why'd you even ask? You seem to know more than I do about the subject.

I am not an anti-semite because one of my best friends is a jew (and he has never ripped me off and routinely loans me money at a very reasonable interest rate).

[Man911]

Are you serious, your best friend loans you with interest?

[benhur]

Dr Torpedo, I was just curious to see how someone might generalize about what a jewish girl looks like, especially considering all the different origins for jewish people. There are even some black jews (originally from Africa) living in the USA, Israel and South Africa.
Don't feel bad, there are still a lot of misconceptions out there. In Quebec, a lot of French Canadians still think all jews are anglophones, and are not that fond of them just because of that.
Hey, look at the bright side, maybe you learned something.

[Red Paul]

Dr. T is back on the Jews.

... oh well.

[benhur]

Very good response Didi.....no they don't.....as we all know Italians from the north are fair skinned by opposition to Sicilians, actually they even say that south of Florence, it's not Italy anymore ....but from my trips there (6 times a year for 14 years)....the italian look is usually asociated to dark hair and eyes.......just another generalization.

[Dr. Torpedo]

Come on now Red Paul, I was never on the Jews to begin with; I only jest. My good friend is jewish; or at least I think he's jewish...I saw him in the locker room...

[dakull]

Forget this ethnic shit, she is hot, not a head turner, but good looking and gives a good service, and while off the web-site, you can still book her, good luck.

[Red Paul]

Some of your best friends are Jewish -- there's a new one.

Again, oh well.

[Dr. Torpedo]

never mind

[benhur]

Originally posted by Dr. Torpedo
or at least I think he's jewish...I saw him in the locker room... [/B]
....I guess you're talking about circumcision, all islamic men are also circumcised and up until 1974, 25 to 30% of new born in Quebec were circumcised.

[Dr. Torpedo]

It was only a joke. I guess from now on I will walk on pins and needles.

I should let you guys know that both Martin and Jacques are Jewish.

[Man911]

Martin spoke like a québecquois guy?

[Special K]

Originally posted by benhur

....I guess you're talking about circumcision, all islamic men are also circumcised and up until 1974, 25 to 30% of new born in Quebec were circumcised.

Where did everyone's sense of humor go? Let's chill out here, he was making a few jokes, no need to jump down anyone's throat.

If I ever need solid facts it's obvious who I should come to though.

No covered wagons here ;)

SK

[benhur]

Originally posted by Dr. Torpedo
................

I should let you guys know that both Martin and Jacques are Jewish.

....after that one, I know you're joking........no problem here.